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Endeavour Starfleet
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:26:00 -
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Just a heads up. It is Endeavour not Endeavor.
Came expecting troll posting. Left knowing a former incursion leader let himself get played by nullsec overlords. |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:44:00 -
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Emergent gameplay my ass. He played them they played us. People in nonshiny fleets suffered.
He tried to push your BS view of incursions on everyone else and because of that incursions may get nuked from orbit by a CCP wanting to wring their hands of this to focus on FW. Betraying the entire community to benefit nullsec may be your view of emergent gameplay. Yet to the guy that wakes up at 3AM to go on a CTA so he can rat later it is just hell in EVE.
And if you see very little nullsec in this. It is because you are blind to the reality of EVE in my opinion.
Edit: Whopps responded to wrong person. Changed to reflect the OP |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.27 04:50:00 -
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Krissada wrote:Endeavour your conspiracy theories and your lack of understanding about this whole subject makes you a PITA - that's my honest opinion. Many FC's understand the need for incursions to be changed, heck they have tried to push it themselves. You don't understand and with your attitude you probably never will.
Played by nullsec lords? Oh for the love of god...
I have plenty of understanding of the subject. And the more I read this this is less to do about any incursion changes then it is about your ego.
Congrats! You've made it into the history books your ego won. Too bad if CCP nukes incursions from orbit the nonshiny folks will pay the price. Yet hey F them right?
Now go buy your alt and GTFO. You betrayed the entire incursion community. |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.27 20:20:00 -
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Darius III wrote:Endevor Starfleet wrote:Just a heads up. It is Endevor not Endevor.
a former incursion leader let himself get played by nullsec overlords. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Not only are you wrong, you incorrect also. The Amazing Ammzi came to US, not the other way around, and virtually no one who helped lives in nullsec. KEEP POSTING!
Go on. Keep pretending that. |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.27 20:23:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Roxwar wrote: So you spend a year building up trust and respect from thousands of players, players who turn to you for advice ect, then when YOU get bored of incursions, you ruin it for the thousands who's respect you gained over the previous 12months just because YOU'd had enough?
I haven't betrayed them, at all times I worked for the incursion community. Giving them a voice on the forums and a skirt to pull at CCP. I still do incursions, as a matter of fact I FC'ed a vanguard fleet today from BTL. I never worked "12 months" to get up in the chains and betray anyone, that was not the goal and will never be (betrayal that is). At the end of the day if WE made CCP realize how important incursions are both as a feature for itself and how it is affecting people in EVE regardless of system sec status then we've all accomplished something great.
Learning the ropes so you can start mass interdiction fleets = Betrayal
Learning the ropes so you can support and encourage fake logi fleets to deprive BTL of funds = Betrayal |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.28 02:26:00 -
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Serge SC wrote:I had a very clever contribution to make to this thread, but then I logged in and forgot about it...I'll just say hello then o/
If I remember it, then I'll edit the post...
I had a very clever response to this. Then I took an arrow in the knee... |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.29 04:28:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:BTL Pub reimburses logistic losses in assault, headquarter and mom fleets. Initially the reimbursement was only for logistic losses in mom fleets since the vast majority of the ISK comes from the mom loot that is auctioned off. The losses you speak of are mostly DPS and those few logis are unfortunately not covered because it wasn't a BTL fleet. It would be the similar as saying Rooks and Kings should reimburse my logi, because I lost it in a Pandemic Legion fleet.
Just an example.
You know. I love how you so calmly post stuff as if it is just an every day thing.
How do you explain away your fake logi fleets costing people that much? F them? |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.30 04:47:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:There was no political benefit. I revealed the whole story because a few in leadership positions were already aware of it and pushing it any further would not have gained anything more out of CCP unless I kept the interdiction going for a full 30 days or similar. In that case not even the most patient of the incursion runner would have forgiven me even though a month long interdiction might have had CCP act much quicker.
I doubt many truly forgive you now.
Ammzi wrote:The fact remains that by revealing myself publicly I gain and lose many aspects. First of all I am being severely punished and restricted for my actions. Secondly a lot of friends/associates have turned their backs on me and even the small vanguard incursion community I created back in June want nothing to do with me.
Are you seriously surprised by this?
And severely punished is permaban from all relevant incursion channels including BTL. Anything less means you are getting benefit over those who ganked in the past.
Ammzi wrote:*shrugs* that's what I knew would happen when I went into this and I shouldn't expect any other treatment. I wanted to get a point across to CCP and I managed. They created a feedback thread where everyone interested could chip in a few cents about incursions.
You knew BTL would still have you? Wut?
Ammzi wrote:The only benefit with revealing myself is that I can now finally switch between alts without waiting a random amount of time as to not awake suspicion.
You actually still use that char? lolzors
Let us just pretend the community manages to forgive you for shutting an ENTIRE EXPANSION down for hisec players. How do you even remotely try to explain away your support and participation in the fake logi fleets that got incursion runners destroyed?
How was that not you wanting to destroy people who trusted you?
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